Obama gets re-elected. Thoughts?

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    NickJ

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    So president Obama was re-elected two nights ago. What do you guys think of how the election turned out, and what do you think we have to look forward to for the next four years? I think it's very sad to watch the Republican ground-game in action. For the second straight presidential election, they got beat like a drum on the ground with volunteers, get out the vote campaigns, etc. Sure, they had a ton of corporate money. But in the end, boots on the ground won the day.
     
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    Kinda sad Romney didn't win. I really don't think Obama did a good job with his four years, and that he's a socialist who's bankrupting our country so we can fall backward in the dark ages and all that BS.

    It was a close, well-fought race though.
     
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    In France Obama receive 90% in the survey.
     
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    I think the re-election of Obama proved one thing. That, in the US at least, having more money doesn't get anyone elected. If money really talked, then Romney would have been elected without a fight. If the 1% really had the clout, Obama would have been routed even before he got started. As the election results show, there is still hope yet for the man in the street in the US.
     
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    clifford (c_c)

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    If that were the case, Obama would not have been re-elected. People are blinded by the negative aspects of keeping him in office. The sad thing is I didn't see it being any different if Romney had of won.
     
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    It's the changing demographics of the country really. Money cannot stop that kind of bleeding. It can cure a lot of campaign ills sure. But when young people, minorities, and women aren't buying what you're selling. You can run all the ads you want. In the end, three huge and key voting blocks still don't care for your politics. So you're left trying to expand a dying demographic in this country, the rural 50+ older voter.
     
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    Core coffee & gigabytes Moderator

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    I am glad he won. There's very little about the GOP platform that I can stomach. Hopefully the Republican-controlled Congress doesn't bog down every damn legislative effort this time around so things can actually get done.
     
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    You might enjoy reading http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/11/inside-team-romneys-whale-of-an-it-meltdown/ then, as it explains some of the snafus with their election day planning. I just had to shake my head.

    I would have to disagree here. While there is a great deal I think Obama could, and in fact SHOULD be doing better on, I honestly feel Romney would've been worse. Every single initiative he sponsored, pushed for, or campaigned on as governor of Mass just about was copied by the dems, and that automatically means he's suddenly against it. I can understand recanting a few positions given how politics works, but not every single major initiative he pushed for.

    I freely admit I feel it was a matter of choosing the lesser of two bad choices, but after several of Romney's answers in the second debate that sealed my vote. For example, Romney explicitly said he wouldn't lower taxes on the top 10%, then a few words later says he would do away with or lower taxes on interest, dividends, and the capital gains taxes. That's basically ALL the taxes the top 5% pay right there, including Romney's own last year. Not to mention doing away with that much revenue would have also had huge issues for fixing the current government budget and our deficit...

    I do prefer to be optimistic though. It is proven fact that Presidents tend to accomplish the most progress in their second terms because they don't have to worry about getting re-elected in four years. I am hoping Obama will be one of those and will fix at least some of the serious issues the US is currently facing.
     
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    Optimistic is the word, thats definitely wishful thinking for something that may never happen. I honestly don't believe it will get better.
     
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    I think that's really irrelevant. In fact, I really hate it when people in other countries think they can have a decent opinion on the elections here, because there's so many people outside the US who don't know what the issues are. Sure, there are people who lived here and moved back to their home country, and I respect those people, but others? I don't want to hear it lol.
     
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    Damn shame. You do know Romney's campaign received a ton of corporate donations right? All that money and the campaign was run like amateurs. If you can't run a campaign properly, you shouldn't boast on your business credentials.
     
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    An outlook like that isn't healthy, even if it is very possibly true! Gotta stay positive, even if not motivated to work towards changing the system.

    If nothing else keep in mind a better system has certainly been done, because there are smaller counties in Europe that are not only doing just fine economically, but actually have working national education & healthcare systems and the results to prove it.
     
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    Lack of optimism is bad for mental health. Once you're psyched out in the head, it's all over.
     
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    How do you want me to look at it?

    The government takes half of everyones pay and then state we are nationally in debt. WTF!!!

    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, when they kick the low man out of their home for not living within their means. And now they come up with more crap to promote being a lazy dead beats but yet get medical care under everyone else's dollar.
     
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    let france have him....
     
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    America, we had a good run while it lasted......
     
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    I live in New York and we are heavily taxed. But it's worth it to live here as opposed to living somewhere like Louisiana. If I had one complaint though, I'd like to do away with the state tax, and just pay city and federal.
     
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    States like Louisiana is what makes it possible for you to live in New York.
     
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    Gawd help this country! Watch the movie 2016 and you'll see what I mean. There's a franchise restaurant owner somewhere in the South that owns, I believe 40 Denny's and he's cutting all his employees back to 28 hours a week because of the "ObamaCare" crap.

    Small businesses made this country what it is today and if we see the small business owner go down, then there is no help for the rest of us.

    The only difference I see between the Republicats and the Democrans is that the Demos will get us to TOTAL socialism about 5-8 years sooner than the Repubs.
     
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    Not necessarily. The top 10 poorest states are southern states. It's really the blue states that are paying for the red states. Although they'd like to think otherwise.
     
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