Numerous article surfaced yesterday stating Microsoft Security Essentials ( now known as Windows Defender in Windows 8 is currently worthless. Here's PC Magazines article about it. Pretty much every computer magazine website has a similar article posted. [url]http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/none/305401-microsoft-fails-av-test-certification[/url] Norton is also pretty worthless in it's 2013 versions. I'm glad I replaced NIS 2013 with Bitdefender Internet Security 2013 on Monday. P.S. Iwas gone from the forum for almost a month due to housing/utility/internet troubles. I moved and got away from the druggies and all utilities here are paid up to date, instead of my rent utilities money going to ex-landlorf/roommate's drug addiction unknowingly to me.